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Why our poll on Bishop Murray was removed

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Published Date: 01 December 2009
THE Limerick Leader has decided to remove its online poll on the future of Bishop Murray. This decision was taken after concerns about voting patterns.
As a result of a huge upsurge in voting on Monday night, the indicative result of the poll was dramatically altered. The poll had asked readers if Bishop Murray should remain in office and earlier on Monday it was running at 75% No and 25%. Following an unusually high level of votes recorded in a three-hour period on Monday night, the result changed to 18% No and 82% Yes.

Limerick Leader Editor Alan English said "This is a very serious matter and it is important that an accurate picture of the views of Limerick people is represented.

"The Limerick Leader was not satisfied about the accuracy of this poll and for this reason we have decided to discontinue it.

"We regret that our readers have been denied the opportunity to make their views known through the poll, but it is vital that such polls are reliable and we had strong reasons to doubt that this one was. Readers are invited to submit their views on the matter to our Letters to the Editor page, by emailing letters@limerickleader.ie"



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dermie,

dublin 01/12/2009 19:11:04
the online poll method is always unscientific, so why did you expect this to be different? your reasoning doesn't add up i'm afraid. shame.
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Limerick Born,

Limerick 02/12/2009 09:22:35
You were correct to suspend the poll. Interesting how there was a surge in support for Bishop Murray in your poll immediately after the so called meeting of clerics and laity on Sunday (This is the PR stunt that I refere to in my email to the bishop). Clearly there is still a group of people in the Diocese who have their head buried in the sand.

This is the text of an email which I sent to Bishop Murray's office yesterday.

"Hi,

Just a short email to say that I am extremely disappointed at Bishop Murrays' failure to take responsibility.

This was compounded by yesterdays' PR stunt.

It was to clever by half that a group of senior priests and their handpicked lay people got together and purported to speak on behalf of the people of our Diocese.

We have been seriously damaged by this scandal, but you guys still don't get it.

Keep it up & there will be no church left in Ireland.

The Bishop and the sycophants surrounding him know full well what needs to be done.

Bishop Murray is a clever man, a political man. He knows that the game is up.

What remains to be seen now is for him to prove that he is a man of conscience, a man worthy of his calling and to end his time as Bishop of Limerick on an honorable note by resigning.

Or will he remain on and be seen as just another venile time server, squandering whats left of our church's good name?"
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Matt Limerick,

Limerick 02/12/2009 14:13:03
Heres the way I see it, the Bishop was just one man who did what he could back in the day. Now people (the report) are saying "well you could have done more". Its easy to say that in hindsight to everything and anything a person did. Before I crossed the street I could have walked further to find an old lady also looking to cross the road so I could help her but I didn’t. Sure people are hurting because of some evil men, and Ill be first in line to do something about it but don’t misdirect anger at a man just because he is not Sherlock Holmes.

The media is throwing this way out of proportion and it seems to me its a plain old witch hunt.

It might also be worth noting that child protection awareness and training has made great strides forward here in Limerick since Bishop Murray has been in office. Something to think about before you pick up the pitch fork.

By the way I do not speak for, nor am part of the church, these are my own opinions based on what Ive read and my own experience.
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Limerick Born,

Limerick 02/12/2009 14:25:49
Interesting defence of Bishop Murray in the comment above.

Look how it is laid out

1.Suggest that the Bishop did all that could have been expected of him, and sure isn't hindsight a great thing etc etc ......"the Bishop was a just one man who did what he could back in the day. "

2.Throw in a token nod to the crimes committed ....."Sure people are hurting because of some evil men"

3.Trivialise the matter under discussion..... ."Before I crossed the street I could have walked further to find an old lady also looking to cross the road so I could help her but I didn’t.

2.Use the phrase "back in the day" to suggest that this belongs in the distance past

3.Suggest that the Bishop has recently being doing good work

4. Ignore the actual findings against Bishop Murray by the enquiry and blame it on the media.

5.And all of this then building up to this outrageous distortion of what this debate is about ....."but don’t misdirect anger at a man just because he is not Sherlock Holmes."

Bishop Murray did not have to be "Sherlock Holmes" to realise that moving suspected peodphile priests between parishes was exposing a fresh batch of young children to danger. There judge has carefully considered the evidence and concluded that Bishop Murray did not do all that he could have. Think about that.
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Matt Limerick,

Limerick 02/12/2009 15:36:28

Im sorry you feel that way "Limerick Born" as I said, its just my opinion, Im not here to argue it, just voice it. "token nod", "trivialise", "or suggest that this belongs in the distance past" were not the way I intended it to be read. I believe he did what he could. People say he could have done more. Perhaps we should read both sides of the story before making our decisions. Hope you find peace.
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Limerick Born,

Limerick 02/12/2009 16:07:46
"Perhaps we should read both sides of the story before making our decisions."

The Judge heard all sides of this story when she took her evidence. I accept her judgement in this matter. Peace be with you.
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